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Monday/Tuesday Forecast:
Looks like we got a one-two punch coming!!!!!
Sunday night, a low pressure system will form over the GLR between 2 high pressure systems. This gives a nice gradient. By late morning Monday we could start to see some decent WSW wind that may build all day long and veer slightly to W. I see magnitude in the 25-40mph range from late morning until dark.
Then on Tuesday, a polar depression follows directly behind. Again this could bring WSW wind 25-40mph most of the day.
Get your stuff ready. Bring your small gear for sure. I’m thinking 3.3m again.
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Where do you guys windsurf on NW winds… What is in the forecast for Mexico Bay area for Wed. Oct. 17th… some Canadian Dudes are thinking of going down to Henderson Bay or Mexico Bay
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Hi Tom,
I received and replied your e mail on this as well. Thanks for getting a hold of us. Check this recent post (less than two weeks ago) from Bob regarding Southwick which is more or less Henderson Harbor (according to Google). I have never been there, but it looks like waves for days.
Let us know if you go, and how your session pans out. Maybe we do a Can/Am meet up some day!
Windydoug
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Hi Tom…great to hear about your upcoming road trip. If you venture south to Henderson Bay (pending actual wind direction), take a look at the Westcott Beach State Park area for flatter conditions. Southwick Beach State Park further to the south should be cranking side-on with a break rather far out washing wide sandy shallows. The break zone can by rather busy and the inside swash and outside swell are usually dandy. Good breakfast at the Cherry Tree Inn between Southwick Beach and Henderson Harbor on Rt 3. Sackets Harbor Brewing, Goodfellos, and Tan Pan Galley, all in Sackets Harbor just up the road are best in the area after sessions. Hope you guys score.
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Hi Tom: Got your Email. Here are the places that I sail on the East and South side of Ontario the past 38 years. Going from The south shore up the east shore counterclockwise.
West Barrier Bar Park Fairhaven – On the west side of the Little Sodas Bay. Very end of west bay Rd behind Fair Point Marina. Go all the way to the end of the dirt road. NW is dead on shore. Good in N fantastic in NE with swell. I have sailed in W when I was too cheap to pay to get in the State park. If you sail in a W launce soon as the road hits the water so you are away from the sea wall. Easy sand launch Sea wall keeps the shore break mild in NE. Free. Use to be a favorite of Kiters .
Fairhaven State Park – Off 104A east side of Fairhaven. My all time favorite place in a W, NW. Lost favor from the Syracuse Clan because it is typically 4 knots less in a W than points west but I still go there because it is a safe easy launch especially when the water is cold. The east part of the beach has got more round stone in the past few years but still easy. Fairhaven can be sailed in a slight SW say 260 deg. Nice waves. $7 park fee unless your a Sr. like me and get in the Golden Park program for free!
Rudy’s Clam bar – On the West side of Oswego State college. Take Fred Hayes Blvd off 104. in Oswego. Park West side of the Clam bar. Steep round rock launch that the water gets deep fast and bad shore break. Good in W, WNW, N,NE. We windsurfed there a lot when we were young because there is always a crowd to show off to plus clams and beer!. Worse in high water. I have not sailed there in years.
Mexico Boat launch – End of RT 40 off 104B in Mexico. This was the go to place for 30 years because there always is a little more wind there. Good in W, WNW. Fee during season. Step over the rocks and launch from a 10 ft sand beach next to the rock entrance of the little salmon river. The channel entrance protects from bad shore break but there is little room for error and no place to exit down wind. High water covers the little beach and makes it dangerous.
Selkirk Shores state park – Is just around the corner a few miles on Rt 3 on the east shore. Go to the Southern most part of the park and launce near the parking lot where grindstone creek enters the lake. Good in a NW or NNW when Mexico gets closed out. Starboard launch. Launch is a gentle rock beach.
Sandy Island Beach State park – end of Rt 15 off Rt 3 up the lake 15 min. South of North Sandy Pond. This is a nice sand beach and was a favorite place to take girl friends before it became a state park because it is the first nice sand beach up the lake. Good in NW NNW but the wind seldom blows there.
Southwick Beach State Park- Up the lake 20 min off rt 3 where 193 intersects. Good in a S,SW, NNW . SSW is dead on shore but can be manageable because the water is shallow and it is an easy launch. Southwick is the nicest sand beach with the best launch on the east side but good sailing days are rare because the wind never blows there. I bet I have stopped at Southwick beach a hundred times it was blowing SW 12 and it was 20 farther up the lake at rays or Henderson. We use to sail there on crazy SW or S forecasts or very cold because its safe. Enjoy it if you get it.
Black Pond management Area – Never sailed because it is too long a walk to carry. Understand it is a favorite of kiters because of easier carry. Always plan to make a wheeled cart to roll the half mile needed.
Rays Bay Beach – Is on Rays bay near Boomer Cove. Rt3 left on 178 at the Cherry Tree Inn Take a left on Lighthouse Hill. Take a left on unmarked road after power lines cross. Rays bay Beach is marked on Google maps but it is just state owned land with no facilities at the end of a long dirt road. The rock shoals at the corners of Rays and Sawyers bay are the best waves on Ontario but hard to get at. launch is a 20 yard walk down a steep hill with and shallow slippery shale launch. Good in SSE, S, SW. Worth the effort. Google earth Satellite will show the shoals I’m talking about. Secret spots and special parking permission for a few to get to the shoals caused a lot of bad feelings in the Syracuse clan 25 years ago
Henderson Harbor – Wescott beach State park. Good in SW WSW. launch on the nice beach south of the boat ramps. Most of us sail from Joe Cushman’s camp on Rock Ledge Dr. Only log cabin. SW forecast use to be a guarantee up there 25 years ago but just has not been firing like it use to
Northern Bays – From Pillar point to Point Peninsula seem to get a lot more wind. Mike Moran has a camp up there and gets way more windsurfing but I am not knowledgeable. You can see that there is more wind there on WindyTTY -
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I had a nice Email banter with Tom Thursday. Nice guy, Started when he was 14 circa 1984 with a family Bic Dufour Wing. I wonder how many windsurfers still existed that started young. Most of us started after we had the money to shell out for equipment. My thought when writing was there was actually a small paper pamphlet in the early 80’s associated with windsurfing spots in central NY. What a piece of nostalgia it would be to have that. Don’t remember the details but guess it was part of the windsurfer one design race promotions at the tine.
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Hey Frank.
Your renewed energy is awesome…don’t let the long winter slow your burn! I was a kid windsurfer.
I started out when I was 12, in 1986. My grandmother bought our family a Ten Cate Runner with a 4.6 and 6.5 sail to use at our cottage on Southern Georgian Bay. It was a struggle at first….my athletic but thin body would wear itself out up-hauling that batten-less 4.6 just to have it end up back in the water seconds later. The tie on boom front end was tricky too…oh, and the mechanical universal that would release at the least opportune time. Thanks to my mother who continued shoving me out into the lake, and my grandfather with sailing knowledge and some patience I eventually got it. My uncle Doug got my planing by telling me to lean back as I sheeted in. A random windsurfer (I normally sailed solo or with a cousin) arrived on the water one day, jibing and racing around like I had never seen. He headed over to me as I uphauled in planing conditions and taught me to water start in deep water in about 15 minutes. No kidding. I was just darn luck. I have not seen him since that day and those 15 minutes. Truth.
I purchased my first shotrboard in 1989 from the Sailing Center of WNY on Irondequoit Bay. A used Seatrend 9’8″ with a busted nose. $200 dollars. For $200 more, Seatrend took that 1984 board back to California, fixed the nose and laid some fantastic 1989 graphics on it with Randy French and Ed Angulo’s name on it. My first sail was a 1989 Neil Pryde RAF Slalom 5.8, with Ampro blue aluminum mast, everything was rounded off with Fleetwood boom (clamp on) and base/extension.
I added to my quiver a few years later with a used Windwing Multisail (they must have collaborated) 7.5/4.8 sail. I found the sail at windsurfing heaven (for a 15 year old boy) called the Quantum Leap Barn Sale in the Pittsford Dairy Barn. I walked among 40 boards, 50 sails, customs etc… I had only seen in magazines. Vids playing on a TV, cider and donuts…it was amazing.
It was that set up that I brought to Seneca Lake (my first ever time on water not in front o f my cottage) for my first session with some of the guys I now call my windsurfing family. I rigged up and watched…it looked bigger and more unfamiliar than I had ever seen. I started packing up in fear and was pushed to head out by Joe Herbert. I did, but did not plane much as the wind had waned…but at least I knew I could do it now. I left that day with Joe’s phone number in my pocket…he had some newer gear I might be interested in. I called him a week later for the first time.
Rick Griffin (H2O Authourity Rick) has a treasure trove of photos, literature, phone numbers and magazines from the heyday in Rochester. Back in the Rochester Boardsailing Association days. I should have him loan it to me again so I can scan this stuff and upload it.
I’ll dig around for old stuff that I might have.
Wd
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